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Being of an analytical sort, I put all the scenarios into a spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tzOjjd9tsUtBXHhG8maKCfavdmw2IqRKHN16NVWKrmo/edit?usp=sharing) to track what I've painted and what I've unlocked. I started to noticed my painting order was not optimal for unlocking scenarios and started getting more strategic about which groups I was painting besides the 'ooooh I really want to paint that one next' which I had been doing.

 

Given that I now had the data, I got curious if it was possible to open a scenario per figure group painted or how closely this could be done. So I ran a greedy algorithm that chose miniatures to paint based on opening a scenario with the minimum number of groups painted. If there is a tie, the winner is the one with the most scenario dependencies, and in case of a further tie the first one in the list. The results are interesting (I reran with what I have painted and my personal ordering has diverged). The first scenario is a third of the way down the list. The campaign scenarios don't come out in order, but with a little tweaking they could be made too as at this point it's mostly single models. In general the median number of groups to paint to open a scenario is one and the average is one point three. Seventy-five percent are two groups or less.  The worst and it falls to the bottom is Khitai, as one has to pretty much paint everything to open all it's scenarios. Nordheim starts opening early. Yogah is curiously near the top, and you best get those Bossonians done first.

 

Here is the resulting ordering:

 

'The Wrath of Anu' by painting: Conan, Bossonian Guards, Thak
'Run Till You Drop' by painting: Atali, Crows
'Yara's Trap' by painting: Yogah of Yag, Captain, Bossonian Archers
'Infernal Pursuit 1' by painting: Shevatas, Pirates
'Trapped Like Rats' by painting: Hadrathus
'Infernal Pursuit 2' by painting: Zaporavo
'The Key of Kuthchemes' by painting: 
'For All of Ophir's Gold' by painting: Thalis (Princess), Hyenas
'Yogah´s Rebirth' by painting: Kushite Witch Hunters
'The Cursed Mirrors' by painting: Belit, Belit's Guards
'The Terrible Lovers' by painting: Conan (Thief)
'Conspiracy in Khauran' by painting: Crossbowmen
'Hunting the Tigress' by painting: Skulthus, Outer Dark Demon
'The Crawling Shadow' by painting: Valeria, Thog
'The Serpent's Awakening' by painting: Conan (Warlord), Olgerd Vladislav
'The Treasure of Tranitos' by painting: Taurus, Dark Demon
'In The Name of Ibis' by painting: Mummies, Skeletons
'In the Heart of Darkness' by painting: Giant Snake, Khosatral Khel
'Damned Resurrection' by painting: Conan (Wanderer), Natohk
'The Hammer and the Anvil' by painting: Niord, Giant Wolves, Giants
'The Resurrected Horde' by painting: Aesir Warriors, Vanir Warriors
'A Red Sun Rises' by painting: Pict Hunters
'In the Clutches of the Picts' by painting: Zogar Sag, Pict Warriors
'The Final Ritual' by painting: 
'Red Dawn' by painting: 
'Facing the Serpent-Specter' by painting: Pict Archers
'The White Witch' by painting: Zelata
'The Thing From the Swamp' by painting: Tentacles
'Sacrificial Heroes' by painting: Pallantides
'The Last Ditch Invocation' by painting: N'Gora, Pelias, Thaug
'Uproar in Messantia (1)' by painting: Belit (Savage), Conan (Amra)
'When the Dead Walk (4)' by painting: 
'The Mad Shaman (6)' by painting: 
'The Cursed Treasures of Khawarizm (17)' by painting: 
'The Last Dagonian (19)' by painting: Balthus/Slasher
'A Terrifying Incantation (11)' by painting: Khemsa
'Approached by the Vandal (12)' by painting: 
'The Horror from the Abyss (13)' by painting: 
'A Lion Among Panthers' by painting: Forest Demon
'Behind the Barricades (15)' by painting: 
'The Treasure Chest (8)' by painting: Hyperborean Primitive
'Death from the North' by painting: Conan (General)
'An Explosive Enigma (10)' by painting: Grey Man Ape
'The Unmasked Pirate (2)' by painting: Gitara
'An Ape, Several Kegs and a Girl' by painting: Constantius
'The Crook's Hideout (7)' by painting: Giant Scorpion
'The Inn of All Dangers (5)' by painting: Bone Golem
'The Woman Who Never Died (9)' by painting: Akivasha
'For the Blood of a Barbarian' by painting: Ageera
'The Mystical Dagger (14)' by painting: Swamp Demon
'The Fortress of Xapur (18)' by painting: Giant Spider
'An Improbable Alliance (3)' by painting: Kerim Shah
'The Spellbook of the Gray Man-Ape (16)' by painting: Warlock
'Where the Thunder Rumbles' by painting: Sabertooth Tiger
'A Dragon on the Marches' by painting: Dragon
'Sedition' by painting: Amboola, Conan (Mercenary)
'The Iron Hand' by painting: 
'The Zamboula Strangler' by painting: Baal Pteor
'The Curse of the Shape-shifter' by painting: Camel
'The Fifth Plague of Stygia' by painting: Thot Amon, Assassins, Eternal Guard
'Defeat or Die' by painting: Ikhmet
'The Lost King' by painting: Scorpion Broodmother
'The Curse of the Scorpion' by painting: 
'The Price of Success' by painting: Balthus, Kothian Archer, Black Dragons
'The Magnificent Three' by painting: Shentu, Foo Dogs, Honor Guards, Javelin Throwers, Khitan Guards

'A Bloody Burglary' by painting:
'Smoke Screen' by painting:
'The Remedy' by painting:

 

There is of course the possibility of mistakes in my scenario numbers in the spreadsheet, if you notice any let me know. 

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  • 5 months later...

@garbetsp:

i did not go about it in nearly as scientific a method as you did, but, I did begin painting all my Conan minis grouped in specific clusters in order to unlock scenarios. I started with the core game heroes, Picts, Hyenas, giant snake, and Zogar in order to get the first scenario on the table, and then I just went about picking a scenario that looked interesting and painting what I’d need. I went all in on everything during the KS, so I’ve been pretty damn busy with all Conan all the time (kinda looking forward to painting something from a different genre eventually, like when my Nemesis game arrives). Too late for me to follow your awesome Conan data now, as I have painted everything except the 3 big box Expansions. I’m working on those now, and I have more than half of Nordheim painted. I think I’ll get on with Stygia next and then tackle Khitai. Oh yeah, and the MB Corinthia will figure in there somewhere too... 

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Here’s a few random pictures I have in the phone, but I am totally up for making a gallery of painted minis according to specific scenarios. I also need to do a massive group picture soon, with everything I’ve done for the game. I figure I’ll do that when I have the Big Box Expansions wrapped up. 

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Of course, given the next Kickstarter for more Conan is some unknown time in the future this post is probably moot as most of us are painting--but if there are any stragglers just getting started this might be helpful. I've added every scenario that Monolith, Modiphius and the recent campaign published here. The order changes a bit.

 

I love the fact that the Guards are really Conan's most consistent enemy (which is why I gave them shiny black leather jack boots in my paint job). Yogah coming early and rounding out the guards is curious. Then the pirates being his second big group of foes follows the books quite well. The Picts and snake don't start until 20 in the list--which is where most start because of the first scenario in the book. Oddly in this run Atali and the crows dropped way down.

 

1 'The Wrath of Anu' by painting: Conan, Bossonian.Guards, Thak
2 'Torrid Night' by painting: Valeria, Captain
3 'Yara's Trap' by painting: Yogah.of.Yag, Bossonian.Archers
4 'Infernal Pursuit 1' by painting: Shevatas, Pirates
5 'Trapped Like Rats' by painting: Hadrathus
6 'Infernal Pursuit 2' by painting: Zaporavo
7 'The Key of Kuthchemes' by painting:
8 'Camel madness' by painting: Camel
9 'The Killing Floor' by painting: Kothian.Archer
10 'Thak the simian' by painting: Grey.Man.Ape
11 'Mayhem at Sin Valent Inn' by painting: Belit, Thalis..Princess.
12 'For All of Ophir's Gold' by painting: Hyenas
13 'The Crawling Shadow' by painting: Thog
14 'Conspiracy in Khauran' by painting: Crossbowmen
15 'Yogah´s Rebirth' by painting: Kushite.Witch.Hunters
16 'The Cursed Mirrors' by painting: Belit.s.Guards
17 'The Terrible Lovers' by painting: Conan..Thief.
18 'Vaniria is the fort' by painting: Valkyrie
19 'Grudges and Secrets' by painting: N.Gora, Forest.Demon
20 'Death on the Tide' by painting: Zelata, Pict.Archers
21 'The Sleeping Serpent' by painting: Mummies, Giant.Snake
22 'Facing the Serpent-Specter' by painting: Zogar.Sag, Pict.Hunters
23 'In the Clutches of the Picts' by painting: Pict.Warriors
24 'The Final Ritual' by painting:
25 'Red Dawn' by painting:
26 'Secrets in Stone' by painting:
27 'The White Witch' by painting: Giant.Wolves
28 'The Thing From the Swamp' by painting: Tentacles
29 'Demon From the Depths' by painting: Outer.Dark.Demon
30 'Hunting the Tigress' by painting: Skulthus
31 'Of Man and Beast' by painting: Belit..Savage.
32 'Uproar in Messantia (1)' by painting: Conan..Amra.
33 'The Cursed Treasures of Khawarizm (17)' by painting:
34 'Blasphemers from the Past' by painting: Dark.Demon
35 'A Lion Among Panthers' by painting: Balthus.Slasher
36 'Behind the Barricades (15)' by painting:
37 'In The Name of Ibis' by painting: Skeletons
38 'When the Dead Walk (4)' by painting:
39 'The Mad Shaman (6)' by painting:
40 'The sails of wrath' by painting: Thaug
41 'The Caller from the Depths' by painting: Amboola
42 'Sacrificial Heroes' by painting: Pallantides
43 'The Treasure Chest (8)' by painting: Hyperborean.Primitive
44 'An Explosive Enigma (10)' by painting:
45 'The King's wolves' by painting: Conan..Wanderer.
46 'First mistake, last mistake' by painting: Crows
47 'The Woman of the Mist' by painting: Giant.Spider
48 'The sepulcher' by painting: Taurus
49 'Balthus' grief' by painting:
50 'Halls of the Scarlet Citadel' by painting: Swamp.Demon
51 'Horror of the Fens' by painting: Giant.Scorpion
52 'In the Heart of Darkness' by painting: Khosatral.Khel
53 'The Last Dagonian (19)' by painting:
54 'The Last Ditch Invocation' by painting: Pelias
55 'Death from the North' by painting: Conan..General.
56 'Attack on Fort Tuscelan' by painting:
57 'The Crook's Hideout (7)' by painting: Constantius
58 'The Inn of All Dangers (5)' by painting: Bone.Golem
59 'The Fortress of Xapur (18)' by painting:
60 'A Glimpse into the Dark' by painting:
61 'The Woman Who Never Died (9)' by painting: Akivasha
62 'Reason of state' by painting:
63 'Dreams in the Lotus House' by painting:
64 'Cimmerian Walkabout' by painting: Conan..Mercenary.
65 'The Treasure of Tranitos' by painting: Conan..Warlord.
66 'Crimson night' by painting:
67 'The Serpent's Awakening' by painting: Olgerd.Vladislav
68 'The most barbarous game' by painting:
69 'Sedition' by painting: Kerim.Shah
70 'The Curse of the Shape-shifter' by painting: Warlock
71 'The Spellbook of the Gray Man-Ape (16)' by painting:
72 'A heart to be taken' by painting:
73 'The Iron Hand' by painting: Khemsa
74 'A Terrifying Incantation (11)' by painting:
75 'Approached by the Vandal (12)' by painting:
76 'The Horror from the Abyss (13)' by painting:
77 'Run Till You Drop' by painting: Atali
78 'Damned Resurrection' by painting: Natohk
79 'The Mystical Dagger (14)' by painting:
80 'A Surprise Entrance' by painting:
81 'For the Blood of a Barbarian' by painting: Ageera
82 'An Improbable Alliance (3)' by painting:
83 'Bridge of Death' by painting:
84 'An Ape, Several Kegs and a Girl' by painting: Gitara
85 'The Unmasked Pirate (2)' by painting:
86 'Valentine day's ball' by painting:
87 'The Price of Success' by painting: Black.Dragons
88 'Where the Thunder Rumbles' by painting: Sabertooth.Tiger
89 'A Dragon on the Marches' by painting: Dragon
90 'The Zamboula Strangler' by painting: Baal.Pteor
91 'Sacrifice of the Black Ones' by painting: Black.Ones
92 'The Hammer and the Anvil' by painting: Niord, Giants
93 'A Red Sun Rises' by painting: Aesir.Warriors, Vanir.Warriors
94 'The Resurrected Horde' by painting:
95 'Dreams of Atali' by painting: Ikhmet, Shentu, Thot.Amon
96 'The Trap' by painting: Assassins
97 'Defeat or Die' by painting: Eternal.Guard
98 'The Fifth Plague of Stygia' by painting:
99 'The Lost King' by painting: Scorpion.Broodmother
100 'The Curse of the Scorpion' by painting:
101 'The Fate of Yag-Kosha' by painting:
102 'The Streets of Khemi' by painting: Shuang.Mian, Javelin.Throwers
103 'The Time for Flight is Nigh' by painting: Honor.Guards, Khitan.Guards
'A Bloody Burglary' 'Smoke Screen' 'The Remedy' 'The Magnificent Three' 'Rescue at the top' 'The Time for Flight is Nigh' 'Fight or Flight'

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