Swarc Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Hoping someone can help clarify the Mind Control spell from the base game. It has a minimum 1 cost, 3 exertion limit, and the EN version reads: "Assign a number of gems from your Reserve zone to this card and choose an enemy not in your line of sight. That enemy gains that many movement points, which you must spend to move that enemy in a way that would not cause it to suffer damage." Does it cost 1 to "activate", similar to teleportation, then you can spend another 1 or 2 to move an enemy that many spaces? Or is there no "activation cost", and however many gems you put on it = how many spaces you can move an enemy (so you put 2 gems on it to move 1 enemy 2 spaces, or 1 gem on it to move an enemy 1 space). I came across this BGG thread that seemed to indicate problems with the translation, and a clarification from Monolith, but it doesn't provide a link to that source: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1694074/mind-control-extra. The thread doesn't really end with a definitive conclusion, and introduces other questions about whether extra move points are granted and whether or not line of sight is required. I don't have the FR version of the spell to run through Google translate and compare to EN. Can someone help clarify exactly how the Mind Control spell works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Quite Dead Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) Hi there! For Mind Control, the French text states: Quote Ciblez une figurine adverse sans ligne de vue. Déplacez-la d'1 zone + 1 zone par gemme dépensée en suivant les restrictions de déplacement et sans que cela ne provoque de dégât à la figurine. Seems to me, that it's not the same as the English text at all. I'd translate it roughly by: Quote Pick a enemy miniature without a line of sight. Move it from 1 zone + 1 zone by gem spent, following the rules of hindering, and without causing any damage to the miniature. So I'd say that if you spend one gem, you may use 2 movement points for that enemy. (With a maximum of 4 movement points for the exertion of 3 gems.) And as the Teleportation card states: Quote Pour toute gemme dépensée après avoir payé le coût du sort, le lanceur peut se déplacer d'une zone. Ce mouvement n'est affecté par aucun obstacle. Le lanceur n'a pas besoin d'avoir une ligne de vue avec sa destination. I'm pretty sure that you don't have to pay one gem to activate the spell, because the Teleportation card explicitly states that you have to pay an initial cost of 1 gem before moving the spellcaster by spending extra gems (one by zone). I'm quite surprised by the difference between the English and the French text for the Mind Control card. I'd be curious to learn if it is the French or the English version that is correct. Edited May 24, 2018 by Not Quite Dead Spelling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballzs Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I seem to recall this being dicussed previously but not sure where. But I think the french version was deemed correct. Not Quite Dead, I am reasonably confident that your interpretation of the French text is correct and that is the way the spell should be used. However I am also willing to be corrected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballzs Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Footballzs said: I seem to recall this being dicussed previously but not sure where. But I think the french version was deemed correct. Not Quite Dead, I am reasonably confident that your interpretation of the French text is correct and that is the way the spell should be used. However I am also willing to be corrected. I found it! It was on Boardgamegeek here but it wasn't formally resolved. Also the LOS wording in English was also a mistranslation. English says "not in line of site", whereas French states 'without line of site'. It was meant to mean that LOS is not taken into consideration, so you can mind control anyone. Edited April 27, 2018 by Footballzs Spelling error. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarc Posted April 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Thanks all for the quick responses and clarification, much appreciated! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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