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  1. On 1/22/2020 at 4:58 PM, Radulf said:

     

    2) The LOS from Z to A goes through the train and is therefore interrupted. B and C are fine, as they share a letter (E) with Z

     

     

    As I was writing my reply, I realized that my whole argumentation is based on the following interpretation of the rules: "letters in LOS markers are there to support the rules, not to create exceptions", and if that's not true and letters may cause exceptions - to the rules and board art - well, there's no point on keep going with this discussion.

    Therefore, I would be nice if we had an official confirmation or clarification.

     

    Since I had my reply already written (and posted), I move it on the spoiler below.

    Spoiler

     B and C goes through the same train but are not blocked... why?, because there's a letter? really? (I don't want to sound rude, so excuse me if it does).

    Despite what the letters say, if the train blocks Z-A, for coherence and common sense then the train should block Z-B and Z-C (so all LOS blocked, or all allowed).

    I don't want to believe that Monolith decided to break the theme/coherence in such a thematic game for balancing(?) reasons, when a better design/art could have avoided it (edit: i.e. drawing large broken windows on both sides of the train). That's why I think it's simply an error on the board design.

     

    The point is relying on the letters (and thus on the app). The letters are there to clarify, not to break any coherence o create exceptions.

    Look, according to rulebook:

    Quote

    Page 6 (line of sight marker): 

    Some areas have one or more line of sight markers.
    These are used to determine if a miniature has
    a clear line of sight to another area. A line of sight
    marker can also include letters around it to facilitate
    this process
    .
    (see Determination of a clear line of
    sight on page 43) (FIG._4).

    So the letters are there not to create "exceptions" to the rules, but to support them.

     

    LOS app reflects the design on the board for quick checking. But the board design could have some errors, right?

    That's all I'm saying, just pointing out some incoherences that may be, simply, mistakes. I don't claim for new boards or refund or any kind of compensation. Maybe just adjusting the LOS app to reflect the real interpretation even if it contradicts what's written on the board (if that was a mistake). Or, if I'm wrong, give me a credible explanation.

     

    If the REAL explanation is that that letters on LOS markers cause exceptions to rules and art, well, I would be quite disappointed (and instead of a simple mistake it would be a flaw). Disappointed like my gaming-partner was when I introduced the game to him and after a loooong explanation of the rules and abilities, all very thematic, we start playing and meet this situation. And I was not able give him a proper explanation, because there isn't any. I cannot tell him "look, you can shoot through the train because there's a letter". Not in this game.

    Just my opinion 🙂

     

     

  2. On 1/19/2020 at 5:50 PM, Johnnymaxx said:

    So, In my humble opinion, what happened here is that someone should have written a letter in the "batman" zone so it could share a line of sight to that roof over there, but it was not done so, and so by the rules, they don't have LoS to each other.

     

    Totally agree.

    I will only add that, besides adding a letter in Batman's zone LOS marker (maybe it is not necessary since it already has letter A), the same letter should be added to LOS marker of the Policeman's area on the roof... and that marker has already 4 letters (letter A not among them). Maybe their "LOS system" does not allow more than 4 letters for a marker (have you seen any area/marker with more than 4 letters) and thus that LOS was ignored... Although your explanation (human error) fits better.

  3. 21 hours ago, Radulf said:

    The car at the wall has the letter B, just like the roof, the area above the car has a shared E with the roof and the LOS to the area below the car goes below the wall, thus the car and the areas above and below are visible according the rule of walls blocking the LOS. Do you have any other examples that seem to go against that?

     

    No, not that I can think of, at least for this map. But if you scroll this page upwards, I had similar issues with the Subway map. Have a look if you like and share your thoughts. I wasn't really satisfied or convinced with the kind answers and explanations from Pamplerousse (although I really appreciate the effort). Some LOS were blocked by the wagons and others, following the same criteria, were not, have a look.

  4. 1 hour ago, Radulf said:

    The wall is blocking the LOS. There is no defined "height" for walls. If a line of sight goes through a wall, it is blocked (unless there are shared letters in the two areas). We also stumbled over that wall multiple times already, but according to the rules, it blocks the line of sight between the two miniatures.

    I am afraid not:

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    On screenshot above that same wall that is NOT blocking LOS from bottom-left roof to the car's area (which is next to the wall) or to the tiny area between the car and the bottom building (and LOS markers do not share any letter, so they see each other - without the wall blocking - as in my previous message).

     

    So I'm afraid there must be something else we are missing, or it's badly indicated on the app. Because looking only at the board (without the app) you would say that there is line of sight.

     

  5. 1 hour ago, Pamplerousse said:

    Hello,

    I was in summer vacation. Sorry for the delay. (I'm not an employee of Monolith, I'm doing it on my spare time).

     

    @Johnnymaxx

    About the elevation informations, we plan to do something from the start but it takes some times.

    I'll write here when I have more informations about that.

     

    @Carquinyoli

    About the subway map ,

     

    1) Z-D LoS touch the wall, even if it's just a little, it's how the rule works, that's why Z-D is wrong and Z-between the 2 wagons is right.

     

    2)There are 3 ways to have a LoS :

    - 1) Separated by an orange line 

    It's not OK for Z-A line

    - 2) Centers of zone share a letter

    It's not OK for Z-A line

    - 3) You can draw a line between the 2 centers without crossing a wall

    Z-A line cross a wagon wall, so it's not ok.

    So there are no LoS between Z and A

     

    For Z-B and Z-C, a letter is shared.

     

    All the boards have been double checked by Monolith but a mistake can still be there.

    For these LoS, the tool is right, it has been confirmed by Monolith.

     

    If you have an other question, please ask me.

     

     

    Thanks for answering Pamplerousse! 

    What I don't understand is why ZD and ZC share  a letter but not ZA, when the situation looks pretty similar. 

    I mean, if I don't use the tool, how would I know? The criteria used for sharing or not a letter. 

    Thank you again! 

  6. 16 hours ago, Johnnymaxx said:

    Looks like thre is no one cheching here that can answer the above.... it does seem like the app is wrong in this situation.

     

    Thanks Johnnymaxx, sadly it seems so...

    And this should be the official thread for feedback.

     

    Well, let's better think they are on summer vacation 😉

  7. I wasn't aware of this thread and originally posted my question here:

     

    I copy-paste the content here:

     

    I have detected some "issues" (for now only on the Subway map).
     

    Please see screenshot below with the red lines I included, that I think they should have Line of Sight. The questions are:

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    1) If there's LOS between Z and the area between the 2 wagons, why there's no LOS between Z-D?. LOS is not interrupted by the wall on Z (only by a millimetre, but it is not interrupted), and the two markers see each other.

    2) There is LOS between Z and B/C but not to A. How so? If I didn't have the tool I would not have resolved it this way.

     

    Is it possible that the tool has some errors on this map/board? I would appreciate if the developers of the tool could double-check.

    If there are no mistakes, then could someone kindly explain why my red lines do not have LOS?

     

    Thank you very much.

     

    The discussion was originally posted here:

    https://boardgamegeek.com/article/32477079#32477079

     

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  8. I don't know where exactly to post this so I picked this sub-forum (board section).

     

    Monolith issued a Line of Sight tool (interactive web-page) that is a pretty good help for INSTANTLY checking if there's line of sight (LOS from now onwards) from or to an area.

    https://the-overlord.net/index.php?/batman/line-of-sight/line-of-sight-subway/

    BUT, I have detected some "issues" (for now only on the Subway map).
     

    Please see screenshot below with the red lines I included, that I think they should have Line of Sight. The questions are:

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    1) If there's LOS between Z and the area between the 2 wagons, why there's no LOS between Z-D?. LOS is not interrupted by the wall on Z (only by a millimetre, but it is not interrupted), and the two markers see each other.

    2) There is LOS between Z and B/C but not to A. How so? If I didn't have the tool I would not have resolved it this way.

     

    Is it possible that the tool has some errors on this map/board? I would appreciate if the developers of the tool could double-check.

    If there are no mistakes, then could someone kindly explain why my red lines do not have LOS?

     

    Thank you very much.

     

    The discussion was originally posted here:

    https://boardgamegeek.com/article/32477079#32477079

     

     

  9. On 4/2/2019 at 2:36 PM, chazelliott said:

    Page 23.

    Renee Montoya is performing a special move (level 2 climb) in order to enter the same area as Batman and Killer Croc. This special move has a cost of 2 energy points, adding the simple move cost of 1 - the cost to move into Batman and Killer Crocs area is 3 energy cubes - She therefore spends 2 energy cubes, adding them to her remaining 1 in her move point pool to meet the 3 energy cube requirement and enters her destination area. 

    Screenshot 2019-04-02 at 13.34.41.png

     

    I think that's what I talk about my previous email:

     

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  10. On 1/3/2019 at 7:49 PM, Jim_D said:

    I sent a mail to monolith and all is resolved now 🙂 I thought the guys checked here but was not correct. Thanks very much for your help.

     

    Hmmm, no ofence intended, but what's the point of this site being the official page if monolith doesn't pay attention to what is said here?

     

    In the recent "rulebook" post on this forum, two guys have spent a lot of time making corrections to improve the understanding of the rulebook, and it would be a real pity that it doesn't reach no-one from monolith...

  11. Just my 2 cents with something that I think I have not read it here yet. The following advertisements are not about painting itself, but very related (it's the step before and the step after painting):

    1) Be careful with humidity (and also to heavy changes of temperature). That screws everything when it comes to priming. Avoid priming on wet days (if you do it outside).

    2) Shake the primer can (if you prime with a spray, that is quicker but more expensive than priming with a brush) like there's no tomorrow. Seriously, shake it for 1 or 2 minutes vigorously. And if you prime several miniatures in a row, shake the can again every 5 or 10 miniatures.

    3) If you varnish your miniatures to protect them, see points (1) and (2) above, because they also apply if you use a vanish in spray (which is way quicker although more expensive).

    4) There are several types of varnish: brilliant, matt, or satin. Brilliant is... very shiny, but I think it's more resistant. Matt it's more realistic and avoids any shine. Satin I think it's somewhere in between. I tend to varnish mate for everything except for shiny pieces (metal armour, gems) that I apply some brilliant varnish.

     

    And don't forget the following: enjoy!!

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